#870: The Great School Rethink, with Rick Hess

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Rick Hess of the American Enterprise Institute joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss his new book, The Great School Rethink. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber discusses a Massachusetts study that found a connection between teachers’ scores on CTE licensure exams and the long-term earnings of their students.Recommended content:“How can we liberate students from drudgery? It’s time for a Great Rethink” —Rick Hess“Education commentary is dominated by optimism bias” —Freddie deBoerThe study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Bingjie Chien et al., “CTE teacher licensure and long-term student outcomes,” Education Finance & Policy (March 2023) Feedback Welcome:Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our producer Nathaniel Grossman at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org.
Ep. 292 – May 15, 2023 – What's Behind the Terrible National Test Scores on History?

A Distinguished Senior Fellow at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute and a Senior Fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, Chester E. Finn, Jr., joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss the latest NAEP results in civics and history, and what might be contributing to the decline in student proficiency in these subjects.
“Will Dismal New National Test Results in Civics and History Finally Spark Improvements?” is available now at EducationNext.org.
https://www.educationnext.org/will-dismal-new-national-test-results-civics-history-finally-spark-improvements-naep/
Can Comedy Save DEI?

On this episode, Andrew and Beth speak with comedian and diversity trainer, Karith Foster.Foster shares her views on what is wrong about the way diversity training is done in schools and corporations and talks about her own methodology for DEI trainings, which she calls “inversity.” She explains how comedy can be used in a productive way to bring people together, rather than divide them, as happens in typical DEI trainings. We also discuss the state of comedy in today’s climate of hypersensitivity and cancel culture.Besides her standup work, Foster is the CEO of Inversity Solutions & Funder of F.R.A.M.E., the Foster Russell Family Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization which is committed to inspiring free speech, social change and empowerment through education and mentorship.
Ep. 372: Monthly Tracker – May 2023

Back at it again with another monthly tracker are EdChoice team members, Mike McShane, Colyn Ritter, and John Kristof, sharing results from the latest tracking poll fielded in April. As always, the trio states which numbers are their “Cleopatra’s Pizza Hut Most Surprising Number” and “Death and Taxes Most Predictable Number.”
Addressing Woke Christianity w/ Lucas Miles

Chris and Christine are joined by guest Lucas Miles, pastor and author of The Christian Left and Woke Jesus: The False Messiah Destroying Christianity. Lucas discusses the premises of his published works that cover the gradual socialism and woke ideology that American churches are beginning to adopt in order to satisfy a more diverse Christian following. Lucas also discusses The American Pastor Project, created by Miles in order to challenge pastors to sign a statement of faith that pledges loyalty to anti-woke Christian ideology. Lucas Miles' books and more of his work can be found on his website. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.
Ep. 371: Reinventing America's Schools – With Curtis Valentine at ASU+GSV SUMMIT

What does school in America look like in 2050? In collaboration with RISE Reports podcast and ASU+GSV, Curtis Valentine and panelists Nina Gilbert and Sharhonda Bossier talk about the future of education and teaching.
In part 1 of this two part series, PPI’s Reinventing America’s Schools (RAS) Project Co-Director Curtis Valentine, in collaboration with EdChoice, sits down for a live panel conversation and podcast recording at the ASU+GSV Summit in San Diego with Nina Gilbert, Executive Director of the Center for Excellence in Education at Morehouse College, and Sharhonda Bossier, Chief Executive Officer of Education Leaders of Color. They discuss the future of education, the future of teaching, and importance of school choice for families across America. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-future-of-schools-part-1/id1519327729?i=1000612638884
Matthew Bianco on Things That Matter Because They Don’t Matter

On this episode of Anchored, Soren is joined by Dr. Matthew Bianco, the Chief Operations Officer for the CiRCE Institute and a head mentor in the CiRCE Apprenticeship Program. He is also the author of Letters to My Sons: A Humane Vision for Human Relationships. He discusses how he discovered classical education after attending public school and serving in the U.S. Air Force. He also shares information on the CiRCE Apprenticeship Program and details his perspective on the importance of sports to navigating life and “things that matter because they don’t matter.”
Natalya Murakhver – Placing Children First

I have the pleasure to speak with Natalya Moo rock ver, who immigrated from Ukraine at age 6 and fully immersed herself into gaining her own education in our great country. Well, it was great back then. She’s now Putting Children First as she fights in the dregs of NYC with her non-profit Restore Childhood, where she offers parents advocacy for health, education, athletics and art.She’s had several articles recently in the New York Post hammering the obscene Randi Weingarten of the American Federation of Leftist Teachers Union and how Randi’s become fact checked all over twitter for her claims of wanting to get kids back into the classroom. I’ll speak to Maine’s trans-trafficking bill LD1735, where your kid, regardless of what state you live in, could be kidnapped to Maine so they can perform gender mutilation on them and I’ll also speak to a local Town Council candidate assaulting me with a chair at a recent meeting. @RstoreChildhood@AppleToZucchinihttps://www.givesendgo.com/15days – Where you can chip in and see a sneak peak of her docu-series
Morehouse’s Prof. Marisela Martinez-Cola on Pre-Brown Cases for Educational Equality

This week on The Learning Curve, Cara and Gerard speak with Morehouse College’s Dr. Marisela Martinez-Cola, JD, about her book The Bricks before Brown: The Chinese American, Native American, and Mexican Americans’ Struggle for Educational Equality, about the long struggle for equal opportunity in American education. She discussed the many cases that preceded Brown v. Board of Education, the landmark 1954 decision that overturned the doctrine of “separate but equal” established in the Supreme Court’s 1896 Plessy v. Ferguson ruling. Dr. Martinez-Cola reviews the important, lesser-known legal challenges brought by Chinese American, Native American, and Mexican American plaintiffs, and how their efforts set the stage for Brown and continue to shape Americans’ understanding of civil rights and equality of educational opportunity.
#869: Strong long-term outcomes for English learners in Texas charter schools, with Deven Carlson

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Deven Carlson of Oklahoma University joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss his new Fordham study on the outcomes of English learners who attend charter schools in Texas. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber discusses the prevalence of stackable credentials in Ohio and Colorado.Recommended content:Fordham’s new report: “Charter Schools and English Learners in the Lone Star State” —Deven Carlson and David Griffith“Thousands of families opt to join Texas’ growing charter school system” —Spectrum News 1 [South Texas]“San Antonio charter schools lifted student achievement prior to pandemic” —Greg ToppoThe study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Lindsay Daugherty et al., “Stackable Credential Pipelines and Equity for Low-Income Individuals,” RAND (2023) Feedback Welcome:Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our producer Nathaniel Grossman at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org.
Ep. 370: State Updates – April 2023

Members of the EdChoice team give the latest updates on legislature going on in the US, emphasizing on the southwest and midwest regions.
Ep. 291 – May 8, 2023 – How Wyoming Firefighters Pioneered Civil Service Protections

An Associate Professor of Public Policy & Political Science at the University of California, Berkley, Sarah F. Anzia, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss Anzia’s new research, which looks into how city employees were important drivers in the transformation of city governance from patronage to a civil-service system.
“The Political Influence of City Employees: Civil Service Adoption in America,” co-written with Jessica Trounstine, is available now.
https://gspp.berkeley.edu/research-and-impact/working-papers/the-political-influence-of-city-employees-civil-service-adoption-in-america
Academic Freedom in the Age of DEI

This week Beth and Andrew speak with geophysicist Dorian Abbot, an outspoken activist for academic freedom. Abbot discusses his views on the state of free speech and academic freedom in elite universities in the United States and talks about his own high profile experience of being cancelled from a speech he was supposed to give at MIT because of his outspoken activism against the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) regime.Abbot also shares his scientific views on climate change and whether there is life on other planets. Dorian Abbot is an associate professor in the Department of the Geophysical Sciences at the University of Chicago.Dorian is also a member of the Council of the Faculty Senate at the University of Chicago, a co-founder of the faculty group UChicago Free, a foundingmember of the Academic Freedom Alliance, and a co-founder and moderator of The Heterodox Academy STEM Community (HxSTEM). He has written and spoken publicly extensively on issues related to academic freedom and was awarded the 2021 Hero of Intellectual FreedomAward by the American Council of Trustees and Alumni and the 2022 Courage Award by the Heterodox Academy.
1 Year Anniversary Event Recap

Chris and Christine discuss some of the stories shared at the Making the Leap 1 Year Anniversary event. Chris and Christine also cover current events featured on The Lion, an online news publication by the Herzog Foundation. They dive into a recent speech given by President Joe Biden at an event to honor the 2023 Teacher of the Year and discuss book bans. Like and follow The Lion on Facebook and Twitter.Watch last week's anniversary event video HERE.Watch this week's video episode HERE.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram or sign-up to receive monthly email updates.
Joseph Pearce on Unlocking the Craft of Writing

On this episode of Anchored, Noah is joined by Joseph Pearce, the author of several books including literary biographies on figures such as Tolkien and Chesterton, and anthologies of great poetry including Poems Every Catholic Should Know and Poems Every Child Should Know. He discusses his educational background and shares tips for becoming a good writer. He also discusses favorite works of literature from throughout history.
Marquette’s Dr. Howard Fuller on School Choice, Charter Schools, and Race

This week on The Learning Curve, Gerard and guest cohost Alisha Searcy speak with Dr. Howard Fuller, Founder/Director of the Institute for the Transformation of Learning (ITL) at Marquette University, about the state of education reform and the ongoing push to expand school choice and charter schools. Dr. Fuller discusses educational options available to minority students today, the role of charter schools in overall reform of urban education, and how the nation’s political, civic, and religious leaders can address racial divisions. He also shares with listeners highlights and frustrations from his long and remarkable career in education.
#868: Virginia’s new history and social science standards, with Andy Rotherham

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Bellwether co-founder and Virginia Board of Education member Andy Rotherham joins Mike Petrilli, David Griffith, and Amber Northern to discuss Virginia’s newly-approved history and social science standards. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber examines how test-based and non-test-based measures of teacher quality affect student outcomes.Recommended content:Virginia’s new standards: “Standards of learning for history & social science” —Virginia Department of EducationAndy’s blog on education policy: Eduwonk“After months of controversy, Virginia approves new school history standards” —Washington PostFordham’s most recent report on history and civics standards: “The State of State Standards for Civics and U.S. History in 2021,” by Jeremy A. Stern, Ph.D., Alison E. Brody, José A. Gregory, Stephen Griffith, and Jonathan PulversThe study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Benjamin Backes et al., “How to measure a teacher: The influence of test and nontest value-added on long-run student outcomes,” CALDER Working Paper (April 2023)Feedback Welcome:Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our producer Nathaniel Grossman at ngrossman@fordhaminstitute.org.
Ep. 290 – May 1, 2023 – The Crucible of Desegregation

The Thomas P. O’Neill, Jr. Professor of American Politics at Boston College, R. Shep Melnick, joins Paul E. Peterson to discuss Melnick’s latest book, The Crucible of Desegregation: The Uncertain Search for Educational Equality, and the state of racial segregation today.
The Crucible of Desegregation: The Uncertain Search for Educational Equality is available now from The University of Chicago Press.
https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/C/bo194238421.html